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Singaporean theologian Mark Chan mines his experience as an Asian believer to help Christians everywhere evangelize those who have been blinded by the fallacies of relativism in his article Sowing Subversion in the Field of Relativism. Selected writers respond:
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Sowing Subversion in the Field of Relativismby Mark L. Y. Chan
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mike ross, usa mike ross, usa - 8 February 2010, 9:17 pm As Galen and Charlene noted, the American 'do-it-yourself' mentality and the 'inherited ecclesiastical structures of the "reformation" ', are a major part of the problem. In america, one has to be just 'called' (even according to one's own inclinations....usually pride..), to become a 'pastor' or a 'minister'. The Ancient ...One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church has a literal 'hands on' line of Apostolic succession. Of course, if you come from a Slavic Country, in which the National Church is Orthodox, you will be beset upon by those in America who will show you the 'right' path...and that usually the wannabe reformationists.
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Larry, USA Larry, USA - 8 February 2010, 6:21 pm A very silly comment by Gregory. He throws out a term from logic; here is one apropos for Mr. Peterson: argumentum ad hominem.
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Luis E C, Argentina Luis E C, Argentina - 8 February 2010, 2:24 pm I congratulate the author, not only helps us to be tolerant, but also to continue preaching of Jesus, there is no other name given among men whereby we must be saved.
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Galen, USA Galen, USA - 8 February 2010, 11:32 am Tolerance for disparate or antithetical ideas marks a transitional phase between absolute or exclusivist ideologies. Thus, a highly tolerant population stands poised to plunge into a new or renewed ideology that promises to bring prevalent meaning and social cohesion to a society in flux. New or renewed ideologies normally enter social consciousness through either an elite wielding absolute power who foment ideas, or by a seditious popular movement with absolute values and highly replicable messages and affinity structures. Since ecclesial structures inherited from the Reformation can neither provide powerful leaders nor stimulate popular movements, we have yet to learn what forms and which Christian faith may thrive through the present century.
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Carlene, United States Carlene, United States - 7 February 2010, 7:27 pm Within 2 miles of my suburban home, there are businesses and restaurants catering to 15 immigrant nationalities -- not to mention Chinese and Korean Christian churches, plus a huge temple to a popular Hindu god. Even friends raised in Christian homes are drawn to "do-it-yourself" spiritualities that pick elements from unfamiliar faiths without confronting their less appealing realities. Mark Chan's perspective is straight from scripture: no gift of prophecy, teaching, or evangelism, is any more than a clanging cymbal without love.
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"Moruti" Lutz, South Africa "Moruti" Lutz, South Africa - 7 February 2010, 2:19 pm I can testify from my life: Jesus is the way to the Father. But: the only way - that's a different storry alltogether! It seems to be not an easy issue to chew on, if I look at some of the responses here. An excellent book on this is Paul Knitter's "No other name?"; I think, his analysis of the problem and a portrait of various attempts of solving it is really brilliant - though I may not fully share his conclusions.
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Gregory Peterson, USA Gregory Peterson, USA - 7 February 2010, 4:02 am Mr. Chan should be ashamed of his abuse of straw man arguments. How do you sleep at night, anyway?
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Esther Collier, Canada Esther Collier, Canada - 6 February 2010, 9:48 pm Can Jesus be the only way (as a bridge can be the only way to an Island) and be accessed without having to acknowledge belief in the bridge? Isn't it the attraction to the Father and his kingdom that is the only thing necessary for salvation (to walk across the bridge)? Won't it be okay if it isn't until after death that we recognize that we could only achieve that state because of Christ? What is absolutely necessary is a heart that hungers for righteousness - this thought was also suggested by C.S. Lewis The Last Battle.
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OLAF RAASCH, New Zealand OLAF RAASCH, New Zealand - 6 February 2010, 9:33 pm Many will come and mislead many. These are the words from our Saviour. Satan is alive and well and he is working hard to blind peoples mind. Everything is alright to him except the claim that Jesus my Lord is the only way This claim is hated and is precipitated by murder, hatred, persecution of every kind in many lands like Islam, and Communism,. Let you Kingdom come Lord. Your Church is waiting.
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Cheryl, United States Cheryl, United States - 6 February 2010, 4:54 pm If Jesus is not the only way to the Father then His death on the cross was nothing more than a murder as opposed to a sacrifice. We born again Christians have an internal witness that solidifies our belief in what our Jesus said, and that is He gave up His life so that we could experience the Father, and He did that because He knew it was the only way. "No one can come to the Father but by Me." End of discussion!!!
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Wayne WILSON, USA Wayne WILSON, USA - 6 February 2010, 6:35 am NO ONE YET HAS POINTED OUT THAT JESUS DIED A HORRABLE DEATH TO PAY OUR DEBT TO GOD FOR OUR SINS. THEN AFTER THREE DAYS ROSE, FROM THE DEAD TO PROVE ONLY HE HAS THE POWER OVER LIFE AND DEATH. THAT IS WHAT IS "TRUTH" IN THE GOOD NEWS OF CHRISTIANITY! THOUGH YOU ARE DEAD YET YOU SHALL LIVE.
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Ian Webster, South Africa Ian Webster, South Africa - 6 February 2010, 6:23 am With respect to Gregory G. Rose, those who have died without knowing Christ are not central to this argument. They are God's business, not ours. It is those who are still alive and do not know Christ (either because they have no faith, or another faith, or they have a relativist or pluralist view) that must concern us. And the central them here is what was picked up in the sub title: "More important than winning the argument against relativism is winning the relativist for Christ." And that is true whether one is facing an athiest, agnostic, abortionist or whomever. Can I believe it? Will I dare live it, and love as Christ did?
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Gregory G. Rose, Japan Gregory G. Rose, Japan - 5 February 2010, 10:13 pm Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation. Yet many have died without knowing this. What happens to them? This is a theological problem, which is at the center of this discussion of religious pluralism and etc. Indeed to talk about all these other things without talking about this one, seems a trifle dishonest.
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Steve North, USA Steve North, USA - 5 February 2010, 9:51 pm I agree with your perspective here. As Lesslie Newbigin has said, “the only hermeneutic of the gospel” is “a congregation of men and women who believe it and live by it.” Such a community “has at its heart the remembering and rehearsing,” through word and sacrament, of the “words and deeds” of Jesus. “Insofar as it is true to its calling” the participants in the community “find that the gospel gives them the framework of understanding, the ‘lenses’ through which they are able to understand and cope with the world.” (Henry Knight, A Future for Truth: Evangelical theology in a Postmodern World) The apologetics of hope of which you speak is delivered via the incarnation of the gospel through the church. The unbelieving world has rejected the disembodied voice of propositions not evidenced in the lives of those who propose them, no matter how true they are, but when the truth is demonstrated through a living body...
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Rev. Christopher Meesaalu, India Rev. Christopher Meesaalu, India - 5 February 2010, 9:27 pm Mark L. Y. Chan's article on "Sowing Subversion in the Field of Relativism" While going through the article written by Chan, I can agree, how he dealt the subject carefully. We live in a world where, more emphasis is made on Pluralism and Relativisim. Reasons for not reaching the world with the Gospel of Crucified and Risen Lord Jesus Christ is that we spend lot of our time and energy on "Pluralistic thinking and Relativism" to the present context which I believe is not necessary. We need to remember two basic commandments of our Lord jesus Christ. 1. Love your neighbour as yourself and love your Lord 2. Go and preach the Gospel to the end of the world. We are not doing these two things, hence the Pluralism and Relativism has occupied our minds more effectively.
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JM, UAE JM, UAE - 5 February 2010, 9:07 pm "Do not attach yourself to any particular creed exclusively, so that you may disbelieve all the rest; otherwise you will lose much good, nay, you will fail to recognize the real truth of the matter. God, the omnipresent and omnipotent, is not limited by any one creed, for, he says, "Wheresoever ye turn, there is the face of Allah." Everyone praises what he believes; his god is his own creature, and in praising it he praises himself. Consequently he blames the beliefs of others, which he would not do if he were just, but his dislike is based on ignorance." - Ibn al-Arabi (13th cent)
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cmaglaughlin, USA cmaglaughlin, USA - 5 February 2010, 6:36 pm The following headline is true and proves where relativism has taken us---"An atheist preacher has been allowed to stay in office by the Protestant Church of the Netherlands." Nuff said!
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Jeff, United States Jeff, United States - 5 February 2010, 5:27 pm But as for certain truth, no man has known it, Nor will he know it; neither of the gods, Nor yet of all the things of which I speak. And even if by chance he were to utter The final truth, he would himself not know it: For all is but a woven web of guesses. Xenophanes (Hardly a Postmodern) : )
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Peter, United States Peter, United States - 5 February 2010, 3:06 pm One thing I have found in this conversation-ender of absolute truth is that we evangelicals often pick and choose our absolutes absolutely. We are as guilty of cultural and interpretive relativism as anyone. Do you suppose that if Calvin or Luther were to land in today's Christian market place with its consumerist mindset that they'd recognize it? Do you think the Super Bowl, played on the Sabbath, would pass muster in Calvin's Geneva? Look how easily Christians dismiss the O.T. injunctions that we find inconvenient, and yet glom on to those that we find politically expedient. It's all something of an exegetical circus.
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"Moruti" Lutz, South Africa "Moruti" Lutz, South Africa - 5 February 2010, 12:38 am Concerning Stuart McAllister's comment on the "end of apologetics": maybe one has to differenciate and say: "the end of apologetis as we know it". In a postmodern culture we will have to learn, how to spell out the gospel of Jesus in a way that can be understood. Maybe the "Finding Faith" books of Brian McLaren could give an indication, what effective apologetics in our postmodern times could look like ("A Search For What Makes Sense" and "A Search for What is Real")?
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"Moruti" Lutz, South Africa "Moruti" Lutz, South Africa - 4 February 2010, 6:53 am PART TWO After all, we are called to do so, and the "historic accident" that you and I were born in the present times, i.e. in post-modernity (or whatever other label you prefere) to me is an indication that it is our job to spell out the good news of God's love and grace into the parlance of - post-modernity! But how? My tentative sugestion: can we talk of "that which makes sense". After all, truth (as long as it existed) never mattered as long as it remaind some abstract metaphysical thought "out there"; it had to make sense, otherwise it remains irreleveant. I admit, it may be a bit disappointing to replace the traditional "truth" with "something that make sense to me", but at least it would capture an important aspect.
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"Moruti" Lutz, South Africa "Moruti" Lutz, South Africa - 4 February 2010, 6:53 am PART ONE When reading Chan's article I can only agree on the analysis he gives: that apparently in our postmodern world an absolute truth does not count any longer. Truth has beeb tribalized, as he said. I wonder, though, if it is not possible to turn this threat into an oportunity, with a bit of creative thinking. If we have to admitt that the world we live in does no longer accept "truth" as a valid category or concept, is there a way how we could continue proclaiming the gospel of the Jesus Christ who says: I am the truth!







Globalization and migration have brought religious pluralism—something
that Asians have lived with for millennia—to the West. Singaporean theologian Mark
Chan mines his experience as an Asian believer to help Christians
everywhere evangelize those who have been blinded by the fallacies of
relativism.




