Did Jesus Wear Designer Robes?
Poverty, Prosperity and the GospelWe invite you to join the conversation on poverty, prosperity and the gospel. J. Kwabena Asamoah-Gyadu starts the conversation in his article Did Jesus Wear Designer Robes? Selected writers respond:
Also see a video introduction to the issue and more on the topic from around the web. Join in the conversation by Adding Your Response. by J. Kwabena Asamoah-GyaduThe growth of non-Western Christianity across Africa is largely due to the New Pentecostal Churches. Upwardly-mobile youth are drawn to their dynamic worship styles and pursuit of wealth and success. The prosperity gospel has found fertile soil as it resonates with tribal religion. Prosperity promoters raise serious theological concerns. The gospel of Jesus Christ neither glorifies poverty nor prosperity. For thousands of believers in Ghana, “Jericho Hour” is the place to be on a Thursday morning. Founded in 1998, this prayer meeting—where “giant solutions await your giant problems”—is hosted by Archbishop Nicholas Duncan-Williams in the Prayer Cathedral on Accra’s Spintex Road. Three thousand make their way there to pray for breakthroughs in business, for international travel, for a suitable spouse, and, when experiencing setbacks, for vengeance on those spiritually responsible. It is part of a wider movement founded by Duncan-Williams in 1979. His African mentor was the late Benson Idahosa of Nigeria, who conferred upon himself the titles of “Professor” and “Archbishop.” Duncan-Williams’s personal transition from “Pastor” through unauthenticated “Rev. Dr.” to “Bishop” and now “Archbishop” is no less intriguing. Duncan-Williams’s 26-year marriage ended in divorce in 2005 after much-publicized efforts at reconciliation mediated by the American pastor T. D. Jakes. In 2008 he married a wealthy African-American diplomat turned entrepreneur, and lives in Accra in a home which is widely described as palatial. Such lavish displays of wealth are usually the domain of politicians, who are believed to achieve their material success by stealing from the public purse. Rumor about the sources of the couple’s wealth is probably inevitable. The marks of faith The New Pentecostal Churches (NPCs) of Africa emphasize prosperity. In this new type of Christianity, success and wealth are the only genuine marks of faith. Preachers quote 3 John 2: “Dear friend, I pray that you may enjoy good health and that all may go well with you, even as your soul is getting along well.” Abraham, rich in cattle, sheep, and gold (Genesis 13:2), is commonly cited, with special emphasis on his willingness to pay tithes to Melchizedek. Since the Apostle Paul himself tells us that “the blessing of Abraham” has come to the Gentiles (Galatians 3:14), why shouldn’t Christians walk in similar wealth and influence, they ask? The message of prosperity resonates with traditional African religious ideas because of the belief in mystical causality. Prayer vigils and healing camps are viewed as the Christian equivalent of traditional shrines. Prayers, like offerings, become ritual actions that are supposed to make things happen. When prosperity is lacking, the explanation given is failure to pay a tithe to the church, or it may be linked to demonic forces, curses, and witchcraft perpetrated by envious family members. Churches offer “anointing for vengeance” to help dismantle such spiritual traps. Services in charismatic churches include imprecatory prayers of sometimes alarming vengefulness. The ritualized exchange of tithes and blessings is very similar to the traditional orientation of religious sacrifices. Amounts demanded can be very specific. In a high-energy revival meeting at Ghana’s Charismatic Evangelistic Ministry, an evangelist recently asked everyone to give US$240 for “God is going to provide a 24-hour miracle in the lives of those with the ability to pay.” Apparently the rate was ten dollars per hour. I left the service wondering how the pastor felt God viewed those without that sort of money. Little to offer the poor On the whole I take a positive view of charismatic Christianity. Pastor Mensa Otabil of Ghana’s International Central Gospel Church exhorts people to do something about impoverished circumstances; one hears encouraging testimonies, like the member who bought a car from three months’ savings when he stopped drinking. Because of its emphasis on material wealth, charismatic Christianity in Africa has largely remained an urban phenomenon. Its message has little to offer young people who peddle chewing gum, candies, banana, peanuts and fried pastries just to survive. For all Africans, religion leads to power, strength and abundance. The NPCs aggressively pursue what can only be called North American levels of materialism – they grew out of the Word of Faith movement of American televangelists like Kenneth and Gloria Copeland and Kenneth Hagin. It is not uncommon for pastors who want a better vehicle to disguise their purchase. They claim God has directed them to give their old vehicle to a fellow church member. A few days after the ‘divine direction’ is carried out, a more luxurious vehicle appears, and members proudly point to this as visible proof of God’s blessing on their life and ministry. These churches have little to offer the poor, and little theological room for wrestling with the hard issues of the cost of discipleship, failure, pain, and disappointment. One church in Ghana changed its name from ‘Calvary Road’ to ‘Harvesters International’ because the word ‘Calvary’ resonated too negatively. Until recently, some charismatic Christians would not even celebrate Good Friday because, in their minds, it was associated with pain and suffering. The prosperity gospel offers positives, possibilities and success. To seek for these things is not out of place. “The house of the Lord” has always been the place where people seek his intervention for their spiritual and material needs. But as the previous article laid out, there is much teaching in Scripture on godly concern for the poor and marginalized. For the NPCs, poverty signals either that they lack the faith ascribed to Jabez or that they are not faithfully tithing. Many Africans see international travel as a gateway to riches (and many prosperity preachers, like Duncan-Williams, have residences in the West and arrange for their children to be born in Western hospitals, especially where this will secure dual citizenship). So NPC prophets specialize in praying for visas for supplicants. Not long ago one such prophet appeared early in the morning at the Italian Embassy in Accra, preaching to visa applicants in the long queue, assuring them of God’s power secure visas. He anointed each plastic envelope containing supporting documents with olive oil for what he referred to as “favor in the eyes of the consular officer”. It is not uncommon to hear about visions in which pastors see angels distributing KLM and British Airways tickets to members of their congregation. Within some of these churches, prayers for international travel now rank second only to healing. Grace through suffering Scripture consistently warns that the pursuit of worldly interests can cause us to neglect the deeper values of the kingdom of God. The “blessing of Abraham” (Galatians 3:14) is often invoked to justify prayers for material wealth, but I have never yet heard a prosperity preacher include the second half of the verse, “so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.” The gospel of Jesus Christ, with its promises of liberation, deliverance, forgiveness, grace and restoration, can never be a gospel of poverty. Preachers like Duncan-Williams have argued that as the robe of Jesus was seamless and the soldiers gambled for it, “Jesus must have worn designer robes”. Even the donkey on which Jesus rode to Jerusalem has been re-invented in sermons as the Cadillac or Mercedes-Benz of the times. This is simply the sacrelization of human greed and covetousness. Jesus responded to that sort of attitude when he told the disciples, following the request of James and John for privileged places in the kingdom, “It shall not be so among you.” One rarely hears of those who have failed in spite of their tithes and offerings. Or of those whose testimonies consist of grace and more grace, for example to continue in a marriage where one spouse is an alcoholic, or to cope in the face of painful loss. God’s purpose in difficult situations is not always to take us out of them but to take us through them. In the words of the psalmist, ‘Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil for you are with me’ (Psalm 23:4); and ‘My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever’ (Psalm 73:26). The Apostle Paul himself had a “thorn in the flesh” that was not taken away. He lived with it not by “naming and claiming,” but by grace. Tom Smail has written in The Cross and the Spirit, “we can easily come to see ourselves as living in a world of supernatural power that leads us from triumph to triumph, where the weak, desolate sufferer of Calvary has been left far behind.” The NPCs will have some distance to travel before they truly present Jesus Christ and his cross. In the words of Bernard of Clairvaux: “Jesu, thou joy of loving hearts / Thou fount of life, thou light of men; / From the best bliss that earth imparts, / We turn unfilled to thee again.” Kwabena Asamoah-Gyadu is associate professor of Pentecostal/charismatic theology and African Christianity at Trinity Theological Seminary, Legon, Accra, Ghana. He has served as visiting scholar in the U.S. at Harvard Divinity School (2004) and Luther Seminary (2007).
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Ackermann Lutz, South Africa Ackermann Lutz, South Africa - 17 March 2010, 1:51 am "4/3" {sorry, had to break this into pieces and just realized that the last bit did not get in, so here it is}: [ok, I see that it may be unfair to single out Calvinism; because for Dr M. Luther, for example, a driving question to his reformatory activity was precicely one of the "Am I in (or out)?" questions, phrased: "How do I find a God who is favourable (German: "gnaedig") towards me?" But that does not invalidate my argument - it just shows that we are dealing with a much broader phenomenon] How does that sound to you?
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Ackermann Lutz, South Africa Ackermann Lutz, South Africa - 17 March 2010, 1:49 am 3/3 Assuming that such a theology would also be quite bibliocentric, could it not happen that one of the theological trajectories of the Old Testament emerges as a possibility? And there (in the OT) it does occur more often than not that people conclude: "Does G-d love/save/favour me? Well yes, the visible signs for that are G-ds blessings in my life." (And they certainly occur on a material basis) So what I am saying, while "prosperity gospel" as an ANSWER (quite certainly) may not follow from Calvinism, the corresponding (underlying) QUESTION many well have it's roots there! How does that sound to you?
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Ackermann Lutz, South Africa Ackermann Lutz, South Africa - 17 March 2010, 1:47 am 2/3 Now, let me try to rephrase more carefully: could it not be, that a (any!) theology which thinks/works/argues in terms of "predestination" or the like could lead to a situation where there is a strong need to somehow demonstrate (to oneself or to others): "I am in" (i.e. I am one of the "elect" / "predestined" / "saved" etc ones)? While that sort of question may not necessarily reflect the original focus of that particular theology, is it then not conceivable that it (the question) would emanate as a practical consequence (ever so hidden and veiled, maybe)? But how, then does it get answered?
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Ackermann Lutz, South Africa Ackermann Lutz, South Africa - 17 March 2010, 1:47 am 1/3 Dear DR Randle, thank you for your response and clarification. As I had indicated in my original post, of all possible theological approaches Calvinism is certainly the one I know about less than any other, so may I please be forgiven if my ideas about it are maybe as "laughable" as you indicate. [in fact, I admit that I may even be prejudiced by the perception that Calvinism (as an staunch "-ism) is much an US-American thing - and that is where I would also localize the epicenter of "prosperity gospels".] Thanks also for the link to Mr Pipers sermoncast, I will check it out.
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D.R. Randle, Georgia, USA D.R. Randle, Georgia, USA - 12 March 2010, 12:23 pm Mr. Ackermann, It's laughable to think that Calvinism is in any way related to the prosperity gospel, much less a prerequisite for it. Every Calvinist I know (including myself) believes the prosperity gospel to be a terrible misrepresentation of the entirety of Scripture. John Piper, a leading Calvinist pastor in the U.S. has made it a personal crusade to denigrate the prosperity gospel movement. You can check out this link of a powerful video made based on a sermon he gave on the topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTc_FoELt8s&feature=related
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Michael Huffman, USA Michael Huffman, USA - 22 February 2010, 10:18 am It is easy to condemn the "Prosperity Gospel" as a false teaching. But since we all seem to be convinced of its error, what should we do about poverty? This is a struggle for me. Is the corollary of recognizing the error of the "Prosperity Gospel" the teaching of a "Poverty Gospel"? I live in prosperity. Are Western Christians called to poverty in order to snatch their brothers and sisters from starvation? It sounds so cold to put it that way, but isn't that the heart of the issue? Does anyone else have this kind of struggle? I plan to spend $15,000+ a year on a seminary education in the next few years. I'm leading a youth retreat next month that will cost $85 per person. How does this relate to the problem of Christians in poverty?
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Robert Winkler Burke, Reno, Nevada USA Robert Winkler Burke, Reno, Nevada USA - 18 February 2010, 5:35 pm This for Lutz Ackerman, of South Africa: EXCELLENT questions, "Isn't there something more?" Please study the prophetic poems found on www.inthatdayteachings.com. No charge. Free. Lotsa prophetic poems that bad pastors HATE and good pastors LOVE. Lotsa rebuke and chastisment, per the Bible. No "Rainbow Stew for Me and You" per the global prophetic (so-called) movement.
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Peter Houston, Polokwane, South Africa Peter Houston, Polokwane, South Africa - 3 February 2010, 1:20 pm Like many theologies, half a truth is more dangerous than an outright lie. Yes, we are the King's Kids! Amen, hallelujah, God does pour out blessing! But the problem is always the cross. The purveyor of the whole truth is Christ and him crucified. The Prince of Peace wrought God's blessing for us through suffering and nails. Perhaps it is more likely that his blessing is for us to see him amongst the pain of the oppressed, the poor and the marginalised, than for me to be blessed by an excessive materialism that this world cannot sustain. Prosperity theology is the antithesis of Ecotheology.
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Lutz Ackermann, South Africa Lutz Ackermann, South Africa - 27 January 2010, 12:04 am 5) Liberation theology / revolutionary: Poverty as global problem of "structural sin". Needs to be changed (with or without force)! 6) Prosperity Gospel: have faith! Tithe! and God will bless you (spiritually and materially!) ... and there must be more, I am sure. Comments?
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Lutz Ackermann, South Africa Lutz Ackermann, South Africa - 27 January 2010, 12:03 am part 2 3) Calvinism: ??? [I know too little about it, but I dare say that it's ideas about predestination/election (of a few) at least falls in line with [if not is a prerequisite for] a "prosperity gospel" for a few which excludes the many. Experts, am I right?] 4) Missionary / collonialist: "poverty is good for you / [not for us]" (in South Africa we have this saying: when the white people came, they had the bible and we (the blacks) had the land. They said: let us pray! After the prayer, they had the land and we had the bible.
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Lutz Ackermann, South Africa Lutz Ackermann, South Africa - 27 January 2010, 12:03 am part 1 Looking at this blog, there seems to be much consencus that a "health & wealth" gospel cannot be "it". But what are the alternatives? How have Christians throughout the ages responded [in their theology and in their spiritual practice] to the ugly issue of poverty (and wealth)? A few come to my mind... 1) St Francis (of Assisi) and many others in the monasic tradition: embracing poverty, which, as one of the three "evangelic councils" [http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04435a.htm], became part of their Rule of Life 2) Luther's work ethics [c.f. Max Weber's analysis of Protestantism and the spirit of capitalism]: from a faith perspective, wealth is seen as something God-given = good (in principle, at least); working hard (to create income or wealth) is seen as a virtue
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Philip C., USA Philip C., USA - 13 January 2010, 11:58 am Thanks Amos for your insightful and balance article.
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Cameron Wells, USA Cameron Wells, USA - 9 January 2010, 10:31 pm The insidious prosperity gospel is a teaching that has been started by bigots driven by greed and power. It is a distortion of the gospel of Christ. It preys upon superstition and utilizes a guilt tactic. Whoever espouses such a theology needs to simply peruse the Bible and see that God's people are not exempt from suffering and pain, but are usually more susceptible to it. Did not Christ Himself suffer and say we would have to take up our cross and follow Him? Did He not tell us to not build up treasures here on earth? Did not Job learn the truth that prosperity and freedom from pain is not guaranteed to the righteous? Do we not have entire organizations (Voice of the Martyrs, Open Doors, etc.) dedicated to helping Christians around the world who are suffering from the pain and poverty brought on by persecution? This heresy is one of the most dangerous and poses a huge threat to the furtherance of God's kingdom! It must be contended against in this generation!
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William Hayden, USA William Hayden, USA - 29 December 2009, 3:45 pm Interesting. Prosperity means different things to different people. But, is there any doubt that following the ten commandments is better for you than not?
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Mike Barefield, USA Mike Barefield, USA - 28 December 2009, 11:23 am It is sad that the prosperity gospel has left the "west" and infected the "east". I am reminded of Rev 3 speaking to the church of the Laodiceans, where the statement is made - "Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’—and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked." I don't believe God is against wealth or prosperity by any means, but I also don't see any evidence of the prosperity gospel being something spoken of in a positive way in scripture. How about the focus being on the "harvest" of souls, instead of the "harvest" of wealth? When Jesus said in John 4, " I say to you, lift up your eyes and look at the fields, for they are already white for harvest!.", I don't think He was talking about a big offering or a big business deal. Let's be about the prime directive and not let our attention become focused on worldly goods which are so short lived and then eternity. Thanks for this article.
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David Hausmann, Switzerland David Hausmann, Switzerland - 14 December 2009, 3:29 pm Not an easy subject... Often we have failed to exercice the gitf of discernement, distinguishing between spirits (1 Cor. 12:10). I have discovered that some sufferings are to be dealt with in the name of Christ and we stupidly accepts them. Some are to be embraced and we strongly refuse them. For sure, God is a good God and His provision is sufficient to face the pains of this present world (1 Pet. 5:6-7). Saying that, I would not to easily throw the first stone on the african prosperity preachers...
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Pastor Pitshou Moleka, DR Congo Pastor Pitshou Moleka, DR Congo - 6 December 2009, 12:24 pm I think according to Ephesians 1,15 to 22, the church is above all powers and authorities with his Lord. So by his power, christain church as the primitive did it, must works for the well being of all poors in the world specially in Africa where after 4seconds one person dies.
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James Martin, USA James Martin, USA - 28 November 2009, 12:49 am What struck me was the professor who stated that these preachers connect with the people in that they bring "hope." It is a false hope based on a lie. So what happens to those people when the house of cards collapses and they realize that all they have done is to enrich the clergy? Apart from playing with the most sensitive spiritual emotions of people ( which is horrendous enough), this movement drains communities of the few financial resources that they could use to develop a better life for themselves. I don't not believe in hell, but this video presents a pretty compelling argument as to why there should be some sort of punishment (not necessarily eternal burning) from God for this wholesale fraud on credulous and sincere people.
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Osahon A.J. Idiaghe, Nigeria Osahon A.J. Idiaghe, Nigeria - 26 November 2009, 5:40 am Believers need to understand the concept of prosperity. What we hear today is only a fraction of it. Some preachers preaches the Gospel of Greed. The Gospel is Prosperity and prosperity is not having "enough money", either the presence of the basic neccesities of life. No! Prosperity must be seen from its multi - dimension and not just the financial prosperity been danggled b4 us today. Greed, lust and covetuousness is gaining more ground. Some, Paul said that they preaches Christ BECAUSE OF MONEY. We live in the End of Days so we should not be suprised bcus we were informed that these days will surely come.
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Marcos Antonio Ferreira, Brasil Marcos Antonio Ferreira, Brasil - 25 November 2009, 5:19 am I do praise the idea of have a time to join hands and knologe to expande the gospel of Cristh and not man's. That is the key, if we can set togheter and not be involved in "theology" discutions but on a conversation that will put us in partinership to find ways to reach the lost as fast we can with the Word of God (Jesus Cristh as the only savior and lord)
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Francis Vitalis Arthur Rj., USA Francis Vitalis Arthur Rj., USA - 23 November 2009, 4:39 pm I have high praise for any group of people who choose to have a council to discus any theology that is different. This is consistent with the Jerusalem council. However, many questions come to mind. Example: In the Jerusalem council, the apostles could make a legitimate decision since they literally walked and talked with Jesus. In our Era, who is qualified to make such a decision? Once that decision is made how then will if affect a change? We have one bible, but 2000 sects of Christian denominations each claiming to tell the truth, and none of them have authority to affect a change in the other.
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Pastor Andy Sodestrom, USA Pastor Andy Sodestrom, USA - 22 November 2009, 8:49 pm Amir, You pose a question that is a bit ambiguous. If you are asking for a comparison of terrorism and imperialism, then they are quite different. Terrorism is typically understood as the use of violent acts which are intended to create fear for ideological purposes, quite often perpetrated on random victims. Imperialism is when one state exerts control over another state or region through political or other means. If you are asking to state the differences between the truth claims of Christianity and Islam then that is a very different question. Either way, your question is really outside the scope of this particular discussion.
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Amir, Afghanistan Amir, Afghanistan - 22 November 2009, 5:46 pm Can anybody tell me, what is the different between Islamic terrorism and christian imperialism? Both of them changing people's life and culture by imposing their idea of life. for example an Muslim terrorist imposing the 1400 years ago way of life to people and an american christian!! scholar!! sitting in the heart of US writing a prescription for a Muslim convert in arabia or afghanistan how that person has to live as a christian!!! not knowing that Christianity is been in the east for last 2000 years and there is indigenous churches in any single Muslim country. Just you need to open your eyes.
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Pastor Andy Sodestrom, USA Pastor Andy Sodestrom, USA - 21 November 2009, 9:44 am Well said Christine! Suffering when understood in the context of Jesus life and teaching is truly a gift. Perhaps one that we would not at first request, but when we can experience the power of the Gospel as the way to cope with it rather than eliminate it we can truly embrace it. This truth about the Gospel is certainly part of the "whole" Gospel. How was your teaching received?
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Christine Dillon, Taiwan Christine Dillon, Taiwan - 20 November 2009, 8:51 pm Last night I spoke to a group at a Presbyterian church in southern Taiwan on, "The present that no body wants." i.e. suffering! The reason I spoke on that topic is that Taiwan too, is increasingly infected with non-biblical ideas. How one can follow Jesus, who promised persecution as an evidence that we are truly his disciples, and then fail to talk about such things is a mystery to me. We discussed the reason that suffering is a gift. It can grow patience, trust, dependence, awareness of weakness, humility, contentment, bring glory to Jesus' name, encourage others to stand firm, and generally grows mature believers as gold going through refining. I would not want the curse of prosperity or the kind of 'blessing' that is offered. I much prefer to accept Jesus' presents which are designed to make my like Him and so bring Him glory.
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Original Anna, USA Original Anna, USA - 18 November 2009, 9:46 pm Jesus never said you couldn't be rich as long as you did for the poor. He said the poor are always with you. And, due to human nature, some poor you can help, some poor doesn't matter what you do for them, you can't help them. What these African churches need to do is instead of tripping for a blessing, put that money together and help a family learn to support itself, one family at a time, than you end up with the whole village. Everybody has a right to a decent living, a roof over your head and enough food to have leftovers for the family pets. As they raise up the first generation, the children will be able to be educated and live even better and so on to each generation. Help the person and his family first. That 's how we got to live better in the U.S. The Church was there to help its members not mislead its members.
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Matt Cottrell, US Matt Cottrell, US - 18 November 2009, 11:04 am Christians in the developed world who choose a life of simplicity in response to their culture's over-indulgence and luxury should consider the Ugandan Christians' choice to respond differently to THEIR cultural context of poverty and struggle. That said, I do believe our Christian faith, the Scriptures, and Jesus himself, 'error' on the side of the poor and marginalized so that's where I'm putting my money.
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Steve H., USA Steve H., USA - 18 November 2009, 12:59 am Prosperity gospel??.....what about Proverbs 22:1 ''A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, And loving favour rather than silver and gold.'' or Matthew 6:24 '' Ye cannot serve GOD and mammon" or Lazarus and the rich man from the 16th chapter of Luke...and most of us know of the parable of the camel and the eye of the needle...Don't get me wrong, it is good and well to have three nutritious meals a day, decent health care, a good education for you and your family, maybe a couple of vacations a year etc etc.....but these folKs that HAVE TO HAVE a fifty inch plasma screen tv and a an Escalade and live in an ''EXCLUSIVE'' part of town [just who does it exclude??] and are probably all maxed out on their credit cards--they are out of sync with GOD and nature, no matter what some silly evangelist says.
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Andy Sodestrom, USA Andy Sodestrom, USA - 17 November 2009, 8:08 am I recently had a long conversation with a dear Ugandan pastor friend who shared his observations about the effects of this practice in his own country. God has called him to minister in the rural villages of Uganda where poverty and disease abound. He described how some of the villagers would save their money for the long trip to the city to pay a pastor for his prayers and blessing. As we talked it became clear that the only difference between paying a local witch doctor for the same services was you saved the cost of transportation. This is an important conversation that needs to include the influences of this distortion of the Gospel has on "the least of these".
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LFN, US LFN, US - 16 November 2009, 12:22 pm I agree with Joseph from Singapore about Amos' assessment of the story of Joseph. I am not sure if it was the CT editors or who who referred to Joseph's robe as the title for this, but the analogy is a bad one. Why not use someone like Solomon then? The point of Joseph's robe was not the beauty of it--it was how his brothers' reacted and what God was trying to say through a blessing. Sometimes it is better not to use a gospel story when you can just make a point based on all of scripture. That said, Prof. Asamoah-Gyadu's article was very enlighting and hopefully will be an eye-opener for all of us in local churches which may teach even a portion of prosperity gospel ideas. May we be anathema if we fall prey to the idea that the way God loves us is through material goods. "Whether in want or in full, I have learned to be content..." Paul said.
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James Reid Ross, US James Reid Ross, US - 16 November 2009, 2:05 am But most like He wore a rabbi's garment given that the woman with the issue of blood touched the tallit I think, We have a God who controls the wealth of creation nothing is outside His control. He can pour out His wealth whenever and wherever and on whomever He pleases the fact that he does not is His decision as He is a soverign God. He leaves a lot to His chidren to provide for the needs of those who are born or have lack, Those who are wealthy will answer as to why they did not give to the poor visit the prisioner and take care of the widows and the orphans. The sheep and the goats and the place of weeping and knashing of teeth. What awaits those who reject the ordinances the Lord gave us both believer and non-believer. blessings love James Reid Ross
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James Reid Ross, US James Reid Ross, US - 16 November 2009, 1:58 am He very well couild have He traveled with some wealhy women who provided for His and the needs of the disciples
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Pastor Mark Chinchen , SouthAfrica Pastor Mark Chinchen , SouthAfrica - 16 November 2009, 1:31 am This Game shed new light on the Romans mocking and scourging of Jesus they beat him dressed him in a purple robe,gave him a Crown of thorns and told him to save himself by mocking Jesus the Romans and Herodian soldiers saw an opportunity to play the King for a day game minner Jesus the son of God,was not simply to be King for the day,for the Cords of death could not hold him by his resurrection he revealed that he was and is King forever
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Pastor Mark Chinchen , SouthAfrica Pastor Mark Chinchen , SouthAfrica - 16 November 2009, 1:19 am Title:The purple robe an aswer to did Jesus wear designer robe by Kwanda Asamoah-Gyadu(Nov 2009 Joy Magazine)The King Forever pg 1151 The new possibility thinkers bible New king James version Robert H. Schuller executive editor Thomas Nelson publisher Printed in the United State of America Jesus Christ was tried before Pontius Pilate in the Roman Praetorium inside the Antonia Fortress Archaeologist have discovered etched into the stone pavement of the praetorium a playing board for the game known among the Roman soldiers was dressed in abeautiful purple robe imported from the City of Colossar where the special purple dye was extracted from seashells.This particular style of robe was reserved for their use.In addition to the robe the King received a Crown,scepter,and anything else he wished including wine,women and Song,but there was one catch at the end of the day the King was put to death This Game sheds new light on the
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Romesh Bulathsinghala, Sri Lanka Romesh Bulathsinghala, Sri Lanka - 16 November 2009, 12:07 am Act 2:44-45 "And all those who had believed were together and had all things in common; and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need." I wonder why we don’t here too many sermons preached on this text? The church at large is no different to the world, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. On the theme of prosperity on the one hand we have those who preach a prosperity Gospel and on the other hand we have those who oppose it and preach a poverty Gospel. I believe it was Selwyn Hughes who said Christians are like drunkards trying to ride a horse. They fall of one side or the other. I believe we need to preach a balanced Gospel. All God has given us whether plenty or just enough all belong to Him and we are but stewards, therefore be wise stewards & use all He has given for the glory of God.
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Joyce Antila Phipps, United States Joyce Antila Phipps, United States - 15 November 2009, 5:22 am The earliest Christian communities provided a model of living and sharing with one another. When people brought their wealth and laid it before the Lord, they did so not to enrich a small group of leaders but to make that wealth available for the good of all. Are we not called to help our brothers and sisters rise out of poverty and despair rather than enriching ourselves? Jesus of Nazareth spoke out against those who paraded about in robes and held themselves above all. I wonder what he would say about the gospel of greed.
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Philip, Singapore Philip, Singapore - 15 November 2009, 4:33 am Amos Yong seems to have lost his focus on the Joseph story.
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Doug Lass, USA Doug Lass, USA - 14 November 2009, 12:03 pm I personally believe that many of these "prosperity preachers" are taking the money for themselves and close "friends". They may have some outreachs for the poor and disadvantaged, but for the most part they keep the money for themselves. You can see it in they way they dress, such as expensive suits and designer dress's. They don't really care about the situations of the down and outers. the poor, the disadvanteged or any anyone outside of their personal clique. They just want the attention of their "backers" so they can live in a lavish lifestyle. And how many of their believers are poor that send money that they could use for food and medicine? I think that they are part of the problem that faces our country today. Thanks Doug Lass
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Bishop Doye Agama, England Bishop Doye Agama, England - 14 November 2009, 9:12 am Peter L. Berger's unspoken charge of "theological imperialism" against the likes of Asamoah-Gyadu is somewhat uncharitable. "Prosperity Preaching" deserves the same level of scrutiny as any other theological stance in the interest of church health. Berger is right though that there is a wide spectrum of these kinds of beliefs in the New Pentecostal Churches. Many however do mix supernatural prosperity from giving, with practical self-help and "networking"; so that it becomes at least unclear whether changes in the lives of participants are caused by one or the other or both. What is also clear is that expectations among many congregations have now also changed such that, for leaders not to include giving for supernatural prosperity; is almost an invitation to church members to leave. In such circumstances, visiting preachers who do not include this can become marginalised and eventually unwelcome. Some of such preachers are welcomed because they also raise money for their hosts.
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bishop Alvin Palmer, USA bishop Alvin Palmer, USA - 13 November 2009, 3:59 pm It is indeed unfortunaete that so many are following the false teachings of the prosperity gospel. I am thankful for you and others who are speaking out against these errors.
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Mark, Canada Mark, Canada - 13 November 2009, 8:32 am I think the main point of the story of Joseph is being lost and that is our complete dependence on God. When God revealed to Joseph his future plans for him, instead of being humbled, Joseph became proud and lorded this knowledge over his brothers. (C.S. Lewis reminds us that pride is what created Satan.) It took years of suffering for Joseph to get ready for what God wanted him to do. In the end, Joseph knew that he was nothing and that God was the one in control of the great things that happened through him. If anybody finds themselves in a position of power or in possession of wealth, they need to fully put their dependence on God. If they don't, God will humble them or strike them down. I don't think anybody needs reminding of modern Church leaders who have used their influence over people for personal gain.
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corpuschristioutreachministries, u.s. corpuschristioutreachministries, u.s. - 13 November 2009, 5:54 am One apsect that is often overlooked is the change in 'style' from the Old Testament prosperity teachings and the very strong language woven thru out the N.T. on the praise of the poor [yes praise! Read James] when 'using' scripture to gleen truths for our day, we must 'filter' the Old Testament thru the message of the Cross.
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arthur Williams, UK arthur Williams, UK - 13 November 2009, 5:14 am Sell all that you have and give to the poor....and he went away disappointed
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Ed Evans, UK Ed Evans, UK - 13 November 2009, 2:58 am Very good article although I feel the origins of 'Prosperity Gospel' should have been emphasised a little more. As in many things we have a lot to be grateful to the USA for, however 'Prosperity Gospel' is an example of a USA export that has not just infected Africa but the UK it seems South America etc. Of course the Lord prospers us but not just with material things. Also as has been said the Gospel brings prosperity when believers start living with self discipline. The West has lost that self discipline and the church has set a terrible example in greed sometimes. David Franco's point is fine but must not be used as the excuse for money grabbing. If only Christian leaders would look to Billy Graham's example or George Verwer of Operation Mobilisation. George ran one of the largest Christian organisations in the world yet lived (and still does) an exemplary life as regards money - no private jets or mansions for him!
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Arnel Lauzon, Philippines Arnel Lauzon, Philippines - 13 November 2009, 1:31 am God have mercy with preachers who uses, influence, pulpit,and Christ for personal gain. The New Testament clearly teaches about contentment. Blessing is the product of one's faithfulness in God and His Word, not all blessings means material things or prosperity.
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fh, usa fh, usa - 13 November 2009, 12:56 am It'd be nice if we evangelicals could police each other--but who would be the policemen? It's very disappointing to see prosperity theology. There's a Christian tv station near me that once showed a woman's foot arch bending into the right shape after the power of prayer. It also showed a person instantaneously losing weight. If I were to dialogue with them on this, I suspect they'd utterly reject everything I have to say--"probably an unbeliever." I don't know how to solve the problem. Perhaps the rest of us just need to get more involved in inviting people to churches which don't do this. I don't know!
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Babatomiwa Moses OWOJAIYE, Nigeria Babatomiwa Moses OWOJAIYE, Nigeria - 13 November 2009, 12:33 am The situation you discuss is very obvious and true in my own part of the world. I have been studying and reseaching on Pentecostalism in Nigeria for quite a while now. Some of my findings are quite revealing. I have a particular interest in the thelogy of health and wealth gospel and its been propergated in Nigeria. We must however be careful of over generalizing this issue when it applies to the entire continent of Africa. For intance, I know of a Neo-Pentecostal Church in Kenya that is doing well in empowering the poor. Even though these kind of Churhes are in the monority when we compare them with what other other brands of Pentecostal Movements are doing especially in Africa, we still have an obligation to encourage them. I want to invite to interract with my blog: http://www.pentecostalmovements.wordpress.com. Shalom, Moses
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Narayan Sharma, Nepal Narayan Sharma, Nepal - 12 November 2009, 8:06 pm I agree all the comments here . Living in a poor country,prosperity has a greater value.People do not accept Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour to become richer in life rather for forgiveness of sin and eternal life.Christian life is much more meaningful when you have less wealth!!
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Manny Frias, Philippines Manny Frias, Philippines - 12 November 2009, 7:53 pm MAYBE the prosperity gospel is giving hope to certain people and thus providing them with a positive outlook. But maybe they (those who adhere to the prosperity preaching and even the preacher themselves) also need to ask themselves that if prosperity is a sign of God's approval and favor then that would imply that the disciples of the Lord were also NOT favored and UNAPPROVED by God because they live in poverty, pesecutions, sickness and even death. Who now holds more truth (if there is such a word as 'more truth'), the prosperity preachers or the Scriptures?...just a thought.
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Joseph E. Kontz Jr., USA Joseph E. Kontz Jr., USA - 12 November 2009, 3:13 pm Dear ones, as any cancer untreated destroys the body, so the theological cancer of "prosperity theology" is destroying the precious body of Christ, leaving disillusioned followers feeling guilty and despairing. The truth is this; until the true church stands on the truth and calls the "prosperity teaching" the heresy that it is, the Church is complicit. May Christ grant us repentance and courage to act in love.
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Mary Cone, America Mary Cone, America - 12 November 2009, 3:00 pm My heart is broken for these people. It appears the Gospel they are receiving is not the Gospel of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I view "prosperity teachers" as "wolves in sheeps clothing" - not teaching the truth of Salvation and the true riches of Christ which are spiritual, but focusing on greed - which is inherent in all of us. It is not wrong to want to rise out of devastating circumstances/poverty, but GOD is NOT to be worshipped in order to have physical needs met. GOD is to be worshipped because He is GOD to Whom we have access because of the sacrifice of his Son, and the mercy he has shown and does show each day to all This posperity teaching is as poisonous in America as it is in Africa. -
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B.W., Canada B.W., Canada - 12 November 2009, 2:59 pm RIGHT ON, RUTH PADILLA DeBORST!
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David Franco, U.S. David Franco, U.S. - 12 November 2009, 2:41 pm Those who seem to oppose any type of "blessing" teaching in Christendom seem to miss the point of the Good Samaritan story, as well as the Jesus's teaching of the talents. 1) Acquire the means to help. 2) Use those means to benefit others. Poor people cannot help others. Would the Good Samaritan story have been the same had not the Good Samaritan been able to help that man? And would he have been able to help that man if he didn't have the means to help him?
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Tom Osanjo, Kenya Tom Osanjo, Kenya - 12 November 2009, 6:02 am Suppose you have just come from the doctor and he told you you are HIV positive, you dont have the wherewithall to get ARV drugs and the pastor next door is promising healing, wont you go? Whereas extremism should be condemned by all, let us not throw out the baby with the bath water. Havent we seen or heard of healing miracles? And if Peter could tell the crippled beggar to rise up and walk in the name of Jesus, what can stop a believer- npot nec esarily a pastor- to pray over an HIV positive woman and they get well?
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Frank Benoit, Spain Frank Benoit, Spain - 12 November 2009, 4:16 am "And when the alternative is a dangerous sea voyage from Libya to Spain, why not?" This is the voyage that so many illegal immigrants from Africa make to Spain and thousands die in the attempt every year. It is shameful that the Prosperity pastors sanction this type of illegal activity, controlled by the north African mafias, and ask God's blessing on it instead of counseling those who attempt it to desist from such an illegal and dangerous venture. Many thanks to Dr. Asamoah-Gyadu for giving a fair appraisal of the true results of this blasphemous prosperity movement. I wonder how the persecuted Christians in so many Asian, middle eastern and Latin American countries have missed out on all the prosperity that they should have claimed.
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Michael Nottidge, USA Michael Nottidge, USA - 12 November 2009, 4:08 am Well said. The bible does teach divine providence and even prosperity. But, it also teaches perseverance and patience. Indeed, the quest for riches is described as a source of pain and misery. So, it's important to tell the whole story of the Gospel- of faith, love, patience and hope. About the african "ritualized" angle, methinks thou dost infer too much! The spiritual forces are not simply of african invention. They are described explicitly in the bible- remember, "we wrestle not..." . Indeed, many western preachers and congregations carry out their deliverance and sacrifice services with comparable vigor. It's an oversimplification to ascribe this to "African fetishism".
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Andrew Phillips, South Africa Andrew Phillips, South Africa - 12 November 2009, 2:38 am The more one reads of the tragic & confused place where so much of the church is today, the more we need to realize the need for repentance. If nothing else, Lausanne in Cape Town needs to trumpet to the world our apologies for the ways we have misrepresented the gospel over and over again and taught so many to do the same. And we need not to do this once but every time we open our mouths to say anything even vaguely evangelical. Pray for wisdom & courage for the movement's leadership as they hopefully lead Christendom closer to a faith of humility, compassion and grace.
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Dave Clements, Canada Dave Clements, Canada - 11 November 2009, 11:12 pm Is this so much different than north American Pentecostal prosperity preachers blending American consumer culture and Christianity? The poor always pay and are left behind.
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Dr Wangai M.D,PhD,MPH, Kenya Dr Wangai M.D,PhD,MPH, Kenya - 11 November 2009, 11:04 pm Dr Kwabena, You are spot on. The way to Easter passes via Good friday. Our Master said, "In this world, you will (not might, but WILL) have tribulation..." Joseph suffered for His integrity. Daniel suffered for His faithfulness. So did, Stephen, the Matyr and John the baptiser. What about the Ugandas Matyrs of yesteryear? And now in Indian believers? The list is endless..... Any attempt to relegate suffering and disappointed life to lack of "faith" or not believing enough is the very antithesis of the gospel. We are a people of Hope, but of alos reality. We submit ourselves to divine will knowing that our DISappointment is HIS-appointment. Lets balance giving our people hope with scriptural balance for sumission to God's divine will for our lives. Without this, we shall set up our members for failure in their walk of faith.
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Lance Wonders, USA Lance Wonders, USA - 11 November 2009, 8:14 pm Dr. Berger's analysis is sociologically correct--but the issue surely is motive: are some Pentecostal believers pursuing Christianity IN ORDER to get material advancement, rather than just experiencing it as a by-product of spiritual growth and obedience? When the former occurs, "Christianity" becomes a means to an end, and the "package deal" of faith plus prosperity becomes an idol of the heart. Also, when we follow our Lord in sincerity and truth, the "by-product" that occurs will sometimes also be "less", not "more", because of persecutions, sharing what we have with others in need, etc. True Christianity is, then, incurably "other-wordly": it looks to the coming Kingdom for its hoped-for fulfillment, not, primarily, to the here and now. Jesus Himself meanwhile promised us "daily bread": enough for our needs, but never "daily cake".
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Russ Yeatman, USA Russ Yeatman, USA - 11 November 2009, 7:33 pm "Renouncing, simplifying, denying self, giving, sharing—all core marks of the community of the King—appear to have no space in this gospel of greed. Power, success, wealth, and health are all wrapped in a tightly secured package that allows no room for questioning, for pain or suffering, for concern about justice, or for awareness of the needs of other people. Self-appointed apostles are accountable to no one in matters theological, financial, or ethical. These "saintly" men—yes, they are all men!— " -------------------------------------------------------------AMEN! Sister. Preach it!!!
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Russ Yeatman, USA Russ Yeatman, USA - 11 November 2009, 7:31 pm this message as a distortion of Christian faith, an unholy mixture of Western materialism and traditional magic. As to those who preach the message, they are exploiters of the poor, latter-day successors of the salesmen of indulgences, whose excesses sparked the 16th century Protestant Reformation: "As soon as the coin hits the collection plate, a soul jumps out of purgatory." AMEN brother!!! That is exactly what it is. Read the Book of James in New Testament. Read Amos in the Hebrew Scriptures. Pay attention to which Scriptures Jesus himself quoted when He was here on earth.
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Harold Macks, USA Harold Macks, USA - 11 November 2009, 4:53 pm I'm glad Jesus spoke to the "prosperity people" so plainly. These words should make us examine ourselves to make sure we have not fallen in love with material junk. Luke 6:20 "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. Mat 6:24 "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." Is not Jesus enough? Do we really need anything more?
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Dayo Adeola, NIGERIA Dayo Adeola, NIGERIA - 11 November 2009, 4:15 pm Prof. J. Kwabena Asamoah-Gyadu may God bless you for this honest and down-to-earth piece but you have not seen anything yet, please come to Nigeria and the kind of gospel abuse you have seen in Ghana and described in your piece diminishes into a child's play. Clowns, jokers and court jesters have taken over the center stage in the Church they are trivializing eternal matters while we clap to their treatise and tell them -'ride on preacher'.
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Kenny Parker, UK Kenny Parker, UK - 11 November 2009, 3:50 pm It is ironic and sad that in the pursuit of wealth, rather than God's provision, Christians can forfeit the true riches of God's grace in this life and possibly limit their reward in the next - especially if prosperity is not accompanied with a commitment to sharing.
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Oseias da Silva, UK Oseias da Silva, UK - 11 November 2009, 3:28 pm The Gospel has to be a good news for the poor and whoever accept Jesus as Saviour and Lord. In a secular society it is very easy to relate Christian perspective with secular apporach. Also, in developing countries the theology of prosperity is very suitable, because it promises something that people are so looking for. Unfortunately, they are many christian leaders who are using theology of prosperity to establish their own interest. May God have mercy...
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Rev. Tim Lehmann, USA Rev. Tim Lehmann, USA - 11 November 2009, 3:01 pm Peter and John were met at the Temple by a poor beggar. What did Peter say? "Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk." (Acts 3:6) Prosperity is having Jesus Christ as your Savior and having the Holy Spirit as your guide and Comforter. The Pentecostal belief is not that we will become rich with silver and gold. In fact Jesus said that you cannot serve money and Him at the same time. (Matthew 6.24) On the day of Pentecost the disciples received the Holy Spirit, not wealth. It is through the work of the Holy Spirit that they had the power and ability to witness to hundreds of thousands in a hostile environment.
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Reindorf Perbi, Ghana Reindorf Perbi, Ghana - 10 November 2009, 1:03 am I congratulate Prof. Asamoah-Gyadu for a bold and very well written article. The phenomenon he describes is most disturbing, from many points of view, but in some ways also not very surprising. It goes without saying that many African societies are poor, and poverty can be very harsh and cruel. If there can be a gospel that saves the soul and assures one redemption from that as well, why not cling to it, many would appear to reason. It is a challenge to the true preaching of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I am reminded of a story one of our most respected evangelical leaders, the late Paa Willie Ofori-Atta, told of a a young girl who after hearing Christ's parable of the rich man and Lazarus was asked what she would like to be? She is said to have answered,"The rich man here and Lazarus after death" Is there such a bargain? Let us continue to pray for Africa. It is not the only continent bedevilled with poverty
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Alexandre Araujo, USA Alexandre Araujo, USA - 9 November 2009, 8:53 am Peter's point is well taken at one level, but perhaps it misses a larger point? Surely we can always find kernels of truth, exceptions to the rule, in nearly all social movements and patterns. It would be unhelpful if the populist damage done by the prosperity gospel were missed or its critique weakened by focusing on exceptions to the rule.
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Alexandre Araujo, USA Alexandre Araujo, USA - 9 November 2009, 8:41 am Fascinating discussion by Amos Yong. There are several worthy sociological and cross-cultural insights in his response. I would suggest one additional line of thinkng for consideration: Based on what we know of Jesus' character, life, and social behavior, how do we imagine he would present himself in any given social context, whether Africa or the Americas? Contextualization is an important communication principle. It should not be elevated to the level of Christian virtue. Neither East nor West, North nor South represent what God has in mind through redemption in Christ. I am a servant who should wear simple servant clothing so that I may not compete with the glory of the gospel in the eyes of others.
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Chad C, Kenya Chad C, Kenya - 7 November 2009, 3:09 am East Africa too! I have been ministering in Kenya for the last 4 years, and sadly the most pervasive teaching in Kenyan churches is related to this deadly and insidious “prosperity theology!” Almost on every street corner in the capitol city of Nairobi and other major towns, there are prosperity deceivers selling miracles, bartering healings, and peddling the Word! My in-the-field assessment is that this false, prosperity teaching is the most dangerous disease affecting the body of Christ in Africa. Let us confront it with the Truth and contend against it with all the strength God graciously supplies!









